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Knowledge@Wharton: August 22, 2018

Host Dan Loney is joined by Jerry Fine (Co-founder, Author of Make Me Even and I’ll Never Gamble Again, Steinhardt), Jimmy Grule (Professor, Notre Dame), James Simmons (Professor of Aviation and Aerospace Science, Metropolitan State University of Denver), Philip Nichols (Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania), Gizem Saka (Adjunct Instructor in Business Economics, The University of Pennsylvania), Mukul Pandya (Executive Director and Editor-in-chief, Knowledge@Wharton), Bulent Gultekin (Associate Professor of Finance, Wharton School of Business, University of Pennsylvania), and Roger Clark (Founding Member and Managing Partner; Visiting Professor, The Clark Law Group; Rutgers Law School Camden) on the Wednesday, August 22, 2018 edition of Knowledge@Wharton.

Air Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 on SiriusXM 132

Hosted By

Philip Nichols, Jimmy Grule

Air Time: 10:00 am
Featuring: Jimmy Grule, Philip Nichols

Roger Clark, James Simmons

Air Time: 10:30 am
Featuring: James Simmons, Roger Clark

Jerry Fine, Mukul Pandya

Air Time: 11:00 am
Featuring: Jerry Fine, Mukul Pandya

Bulent Gultekin, Gizem Saka

Air Time: 11:30 am
Featuring: Gizem Saka, Bulent Gultekin

Featured Guests

Jerry Fine

Co-founder, Author of Make Me Even and I’ll Never Gamble Again, Steinhardt

Jimmy Grule

Professor, Notre Dame


Jimmy Gurulé, an expert in the field of international criminal law, specifically, terrorism, terrorist financing, economic sanctions, and anti-money laundering, joined the Notre Dame Law School faculty in 1989, and in 1996 became a full professor. He served as Associate Dean for Academic Affairs in 1998-1999. He earned his B.A. from the University of Utah in 1974, and his J.D. from the University of Utah College of Law in 1980. A member of the Utah State Bar since 1980, Gurulé has worked in a variety of high-profile public law enforcement positions including as Under Secretary for Enforcement, U.S. Department of the Treasury (2001-2003), where he had oversight responsibilities for the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Customs Service, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, Office of Foreign Assets Control, and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center; Assistant Attorney General, Office of Justice Programs, U.S. Department of Justice (1990-1992); and Assistant U.S. Attorney, where he served as Deputy Chief of the Major Narcotics Section of the Los Angeles U.S. Attorney’s Office (1985-1989). Among his many successes in law enforcement, Gurulé was instrumental in developing and implementing the U.S. Treasury Department’s global strategy to combat terrorist financing.

Gurulé concentrates his teaching and scholarship in the areas of criminal law, teaching courses in international criminal law, national security law, the death penalty, and a wrongful conviction externship. He co-authored the Handbook of Criminal and Terrorism Financing Law (Palgrave 2018); National Security Law and the Constitution (Wolters Kluwer 2016), National Security Law, Principles and Policy (Wolters Kluwer 2015), International Criminal Law (Carolina Academic Press) (4th ed. 2013); Criminal and Forensic Evidence (LexisNexis) (4th ed. 2013); Complex Criminal Litigation: Prosecuting Drug Enterprises and Organized Crime (forthcoming 4th ed. 2018); Principles of Counter-Terrorism Law (Thompson-West 2011); and authored Unfunding Terror: The Legal Response to the Financing of Global Terrorism (Edward Elgar 2008).

Full Profile

James Simmons

Professor of Aviation and Aerospace Science, Metropolitan State University of Denver


James L. Simmons is Professor of Aviation and Aerospace Science at Metropolitan State University of Denver. He received his Bachelors, Masters, and Ph.D. degrees in Sociology from the University of Colorado Boulder, and his Juris Doctor degree from the University of Denver. He currently teaches courses in aviation security, airline management, aviation law, and aviation safety. Formerly an attorney in private practice, Dr. Simmons also has done aviation consulting, marketing research, higher education administration, and financial services compliance auditing. He holds an FAA Commercial Pilot certificate as well as Advanced Ground and Instrument Ground Instructor certificates.


Ph.D., M.A., B.A. – University of Colorado – Sociology

J.D. – University of Denver

Commercial, SEL, IA, AGI-IGI

Specializes in: aviation management, law, and aviation safety and security
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Philip Nichols

Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania



JD, Duke University, 1988; LLM, Duke University, 1988; AB, Harvard University, 1982

Career and Recent Professional Awards; Teaching Awards

Fulbright Fellowship; Hoeber Award (best article), 2011; Ralph J. Bunche Award (best international paper), 2002; Lindback Award, 2000; David W. Hauck Award for Outstanding Teaching, 1996; Excellence in Teaching Award (Undergraduate Division), 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013; Rappaport Core Teaching Award 2004, 2009; Intergreek Council Award for Outstanding Professor, 1996; Huntsman Program Senior Teaching Award, 2013

Academic Positions Held

Wharton: 1992-present. Visiting Appointments: National University of Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia; Indian School of Business, Hyderabad, India; Korea University, Seoul, South Korea; Singapore Management University

Other Positions

President, Academy of Legal Studies in Business; Co-Chair, Anti-Corruption Law Interest Group, American Society of International Law

Judicial Clerk, United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 1988-89

Reviewer, American Business Law Journal

Past Co-Chair, United Nations Committee on Electronic Commerce and Trade Facilitation Law Group (Geneve, Switzerland); Past Co-Chair, International Economic Law Group, American Society of International Law

Twitter – @PrPhilNichols | @Wharton
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Gizem Saka

Adjunct Instructor in Business Economics, The University of Pennsylvania


Professor Saka joined Penn in 2012. Her interests are in Behavioral Economics (why people make mistakes in judgment) and Art Markets (how do we decide how much to pay for art). She teaches Introduction to Economics to the freshman class at Wharton, and Art and Economics in the Economics Department. She received the Howard and Abby Milstein Teaching Award, and the Ernest Liu Family Teaching Award while at Cornell University, where she completed her PhD in economics in 2007.
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Mukul Pandya

Executive Director and Editor-in-chief, Knowledge@Wharton

Bulent Gultekin

Associate Professor of Finance, Wharton School of Business, University of Pennsylvania

Roger Clark

Founding Member and Managing Partner; Visiting Professor, The Clark Law Group; Rutgers Law School Camden


ROGER W. CLARK is the founding member and managing partner of The Clark Law Group, a firm with offices in California and Florida. Roger has practiced in aviation for approximately 32 years. He is a visiting Professor of Law at Rutgers Law School where he teaches Aviation Law, and is a past Instructor of Business Law at Florida International University.

Rutgers Law School honored Roger as Adjunct Professor of the Year for 2009 and honored him again in 2012 with the Armitage Distinguished Alumni Award which is awarded annually upon a single individual for outstanding achievement. The Armitage Award is the highest award Rutgers Law School can bestow.

He is the founder and president of The Iraida Foundation, a federally registered public charity that supports impoverished children in Africa, and children of active duty American military. Roger is the immediate past Chairman of the New Majority Los Angeles, and is on the Board of Directors of New Majority California, an organization that is dedicated to political reform in California. He served as a Trustee of Viewpoint Educational Foundation in Calabasas, California from 2000 – 2009 and is currently a Trustee Emeritus.

Roger earned his pilot certificate in 1982. He is licensed in California and Florida and in federal courts in these and other states. He has been listed in Martindale Hubbell’s Bar Register of Preeminent Lawyers every year since 1986. Roger is a Board Certified Civil Trial Specialist of the National Board of Trial Advocacy, and was appointed to the Board of Examiners for the National Board of Trial Advocacy. He is Board Certified in Civil Pretrial Practice Advocacy by the National Board of Civil Pretrial Practice Advocacy.

Roger is a graduate of the Master Advocate’s Program of the National Institute for Trial Advocacy, and a Graduate of the Advanced Teacher Training Program of the National Institute for Trial Advocacy. He is a past Judge Pro Tempore in Los Angeles, California. Roger is a “Fellow” of the Litigation Counsel of America, a National Trial Lawyers Honorary Society.

Roger W. Clark is the recipient of the Litigation Counsel of America’s inaugural 2013 Peter Perlman Service Award. He has also been named “Super Lawyer” every year from 2006 through 2015 by the publishers of Law and Politics Magazine. He has also been annually recognized as one of the “Top Attorneys in Southern California” as published in Los Angeles Magazine. He has served as an expert on pilot certification actions before the FAA. He is the author of Is Lessor More?, appearing in the SMU Journal of Air Law and Commerce, Volume 75, Winter 2010, Number 1. Over his career he has instructed and presented at numerous events, including the Renaissance Symposium at the Harvard Club, in New York, in 2011 and 2014, the CEO Effectiveness Group, in Orange County, the CEB program Advanced Negotiation and Settlement Techniques held in San Francisco and Los Angeles, the American Conference Institute’s Aviation Litigation Conference held in Boston, the Embry Riddle Air Law Symposium and SMU Air Law Symposium in Dallas, Texas.

Roger was the Co-Host of KTLA’s Law Business Insider radio program, a syndicated radio program airing nationwide on ABC radio from 2005 – 2011. He has been a contributing author to the Los Angeles Lawyer’s Magazine and has been featured on KTLK Radio’s Meet America’s Best Lawyers and Forbes Radio Channel America’s Best Lawyers. He is a periodic guest legal expert on Serious XM 111, where he has offered comments on the Germanwings Disaster and the efforts of Congress to privatize the air traffic control function of the Federal Aviation Administration.
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