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Knowledge@Wharton: November 8, 2018

Host Dan Loney is joined by Mark Nitzberg (Executive Director, Author, Center for Human Compatible Artificial Intelligence at the University of California at Berkeley), Olaf Groth (Professor, Hult International Business School ), Michael Carroll (Professor, Faculty Director, American University Washington College of Law), Mark Katz (Scientific Advisory Council Member – Finnish Institute of International Affairs; Professor of Government and Politics, George Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government), Joseph DeThomas (Professor of Practice, Penn State University School of International Affairs), Marc Ostrow (Attorney, Law Offices of Marc D. Ostrow), Meesh Pierce (Principal; VP Programming, Wharton Club of Southern California; Member, Trustees Council of Penn Women, Meeshroom Solutions), Philip Nichols (Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania), and Katlyn Grasso (CEO & Founder, GenHERation) on the Thursday, November 8, 2018 edition of Knowledge@Wharton.

Air Date: Thursday, November 8, 2018 on SiriusXM 132

Hosted By

Philip Nichols, Mark Katz, and Joseph DeThomas

Air Time: 10:00 am
Featuring: Mark Katz, Joseph DeThomas, Philip Nichols

Marc Ostrow and Michael Carroll

Air Time: 10:30 am
Featuring: Michael Carroll, Marc Ostrow

Meesh Pierce and Katlyn Grasso

Air Time: 11:00 am
Featuring: Meesh Pierce, Katlyn Grasso

Olaf Groth and Mark Nitzberg

Air Time: 11:30 am
Featuring: Mark Nitzberg, Olaf Groth

Featured Guests

Mark Nitzberg

Executive Director, Author, Center for Human Compatible Artificial Intelligence at the University of California at Berkeley


Currently Executive Director of UC Berkeley’s CHAI and head of strategic outreach for the Berkeley AI Research Lab, I have built companies and products in the areas of computer vision, machine learning, financial portfolio optimization, workflow efficiencies, online commerce, development aid data capture and analytics, and film and theatre. I work with high-intensity teams of creative people, and speak regularly on AI and social impact.
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Olaf Groth

Professor, Hult International Business School


Olaf is a professor, adviser and executive for the evolving global innovation economy with 20 years of experience in corporations, consulting firms and academia. He has helped build new ventures and change management initiatives for employers and clients in energy, technology, telecommunications, aerospace and transportation sectors in 30+ countries.

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Michael Carroll

Professor, Faculty Director, American University Washington College of Law


Michael W. Carroll is Professor of Law and the Director of the Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property (2009- present). He teaches and writes about intellectual property law and cyberlaw. Professor Carroll’s research focuses on the search for balance in intellectual property law over time in the face of challenges posed by new technologies. His research includes projects about the social costs imposed by one-size-fits-all intellectual property rights and about the history of copyright in music.

Professor Carroll also is recognized as a leading advocate for open access over the Internet to the research that appears in scholarly and scientific journals. He has written white papers and has given numerous presentations to university faculty, administrators, and staff around the country on this issue. In addition, he speaks about and promotes publication of open educational resources and open scientific data.

Professor Carroll is a founding member of Creative Commons, Inc. (2001 – present), a global organization that provides free, standardized copyright licenses to enable and to encourage legal sharing of creative and other copyrighted works. He also serves on the Board of the Public Library of Science (2012- present) and recently completed service on the National Research Council’s Board on Research Data and Information (2008-2013). He is a member of the Editorial Board of I/S Journal of Law and Policy for the Information Society (2006 – Present). In addition, he is a Non-Resident Fellow at the Center for Democracy and Technology (2009- Present) and a member of the Advisory Board of Public Knowledge (2009-Present).

Prior to joining the WCL faculty, Professor Carroll taught at the Villanova University School of Law (2001-09), and he served as a law clerk to Judge Judith W. Rogers, U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, and Judge Joyce Hens Green, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. He practiced law at Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering (1996-97; 2000-01) (now WilmerHale) in Washington, D.C. Prior to entering law school, Professor Carroll was a journalist in Chicago, a high school teacher in Zimbabwe, and a project assistant at the Africa-America Institute, where he worked on providing election monitoring and election assistance in Africa. He is a graduate of the Georgetown University Law Center and the University of Chicago.
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Mark Katz

Scientific Advisory Council Member – Finnish Institute of International Affairs; Professor of Government and Politics, George Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government


Mark N. Katz (Ph.D., MIT) is a professor of government and politics at the George Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government. He has written primarily about Russian foreign policy, especially toward the Middle East, for over 35 years. During 2017, he was a visiting scholar first at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington (January-March), and then at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs in Helsinki (April-September). During 2018, he was a Fulbright Scholar at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) in London (January-March), and was then the 2018 Sir William Luce Fellow at Durham University in the UK (April-June).

Personal Website – www.marknkatz.com
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Joseph DeThomas

Professor of Practice, Penn State University School of International Affairs


Joseph DeThomas is a Professor of Practice at the School of International Affairs of the Pennsylvania State University.  Ambassador DeThomas is a frequent contributor to the public debate on North Korea appearing frequently in the online publication 38 North, as well as in the print and broadcast press in the U.S. and abroad.  He was a member of the U.S. Foreign Service for 29 years and worked at the U.S. Department of State for 32 years.  His service abroad included tours in Iran, Germany, Mexico, Ethiopia, and Austria.  He was the U.S. Ambassador to Estonia from 2001-2004.  He also held numerous positions in Washington over the course of three decades.  This included two years of service as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Non-proliferation from 1999-2001 as well as a number of other positions that dealt primarily with proliferation sensitive countries including Pakistan, India, North Korea, Iraq and Iran.   Ambassador DeThomas served on the faculty of the National War College from 2004-6. Amb. DeThomas received a number of awards from the Department of State during his service.  This included Meritorious and Superior Honor Awards for non-proliferation innovations, humanitarian contributions and management, as well as a group award for valor for service in Tehran, Iran.

After retiring from government service in 2006, he directed international science engagement and threat reduction programs in more than 20 countries at CRDF Global.  He returned to service in the U.S. Department of State from 2010 until February of 2013 as an advisor.  There he worked primarily on North Korea and Iran, implementing sanctions and attempting to impede weapons of mass destruction efforts of those two countries.

He received his B.A. and M.A. from the Pennsylvania State University, and he holds an M.P.A. from the John F. Kennedy School of Government.  He is also a distinguished graduate of the National War College.  Amb. DeThomas is married to Valerie V DeThomas.  He is the father of four children.
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Marc Ostrow

Attorney, Law Offices of Marc D. Ostrow


Marc D. Ostrow is an attorney in private practice focusing in the areas of copyright and entertainment law, with a particular emphasis in the music business. He represents composers, songwriters, recording artists, labels, music publishers as well other creators and licensors of intellectual property. He is currently an Adjunct Professor at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law where he teaches a course on music law.

From 2006-2008, Marc was the General Manager of the New York office of classical music publisher, Boosey & Hawkes. Prior to joining Boosey in 2004 as Vice President, Business Affairs, Marc was a Senior Attorney at BMI and from 1995 until joining BMI in 1998, he was the General Counsel of Second Floor Music, a boutique music publisher specializing in jazz.

Marc is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Chicago Law School. He has served as on the board of the New York Chapter of the Association of Independent Music Publishers and as a Trustee of the Copyright Society of the USA. Marc frequently speaks at various industry forums and educational institutions. He is also a performing songwriter and composer. For more information about Marc, including his numerous blog posts on copyright and music, please visit his website, http://ostrowesq.com/

Twitter – @CardozoLaw
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Meesh Pierce

Principal; VP Programming, Wharton Club of Southern California; Member, Trustees Council of Penn Women, Meeshroom Solutions


Meesh’s involvement with Wharton So Cal started in 1999. She’s served in multiple roles from VP Programming to President and Technology Chair on the Wharton Alumni Board. She currently serves as VP Programming for Orange County events, producing 20+ events each year to reach 500+ alums in the region.

Meesh runs a private consulting practice focused on product strategy and marketing, helping large and small companies develop and implement long-term strategies. She’s driven key product and marketing initiatives at Disney, Ticketmaster, Catalina Marketing, Epson, and Amaresco. She also serves on the Trustees Council of Penn Women and is known to happily connect people in her vast network. Meesh lives in Newport Beach with her husband and two sons and blogs at imeeshu.com.
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Philip Nichols

Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania



JD, Duke University, 1988; LLM, Duke University, 1988; AB, Harvard University, 1982

Career and Recent Professional Awards; Teaching Awards

Fulbright Fellowship; Hoeber Award (best article), 2011; Ralph J. Bunche Award (best international paper), 2002; Lindback Award, 2000; David W. Hauck Award for Outstanding Teaching, 1996; Excellence in Teaching Award (Undergraduate Division), 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2013; Rappaport Core Teaching Award 2004, 2009; Intergreek Council Award for Outstanding Professor, 1996; Huntsman Program Senior Teaching Award, 2013

Academic Positions Held

Wharton: 1992-present. Visiting Appointments: National University of Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia; Indian School of Business, Hyderabad, India; Korea University, Seoul, South Korea; Singapore Management University

Other Positions

President, Academy of Legal Studies in Business; Co-Chair, Anti-Corruption Law Interest Group, American Society of International Law

Judicial Clerk, United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 1988-89

Reviewer, American Business Law Journal

Past Co-Chair, United Nations Committee on Electronic Commerce and Trade Facilitation Law Group (Geneve, Switzerland); Past Co-Chair, International Economic Law Group, American Society of International Law

Twitter – @PrPhilNichols | @Wharton
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Katlyn Grasso

CEO & Founder, GenHERation


Katlyn Grasso is the founder and CEO of GenHERation. In her role as CEO, she has created the GenHERation Summer Leadership Series, developed original GenHERation webisodes, and grown the GenHERation community toKatlyn Grasso more than 60,000 members.

She is a recent graduate of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania where she received a B.S. in Economics with concentrations in finance and strategic globalization. She is one of the inaugural recipients of the President’s Engagement Prize created by Dr. Amy Gutmann at the University of Pennsylvania. This award provides graduating seniors with $150,000 to develop innovative projects that have the potential to change the world.

Katlyn is a Seventeen Power Girl and was also named to the magazine’s list of “Real Girls Doing Amazing Things.” Katlyn was selected to participate in the 2015 Millennial Trains Project, a cross country trip for 25 social innovators from around the world sponsored by NBCUniversal. During the journey, she was named one of the “5 Innovators to Look Out for on the 2015 Millennial Trains Project” by Innovator’s Peak. After the trip, she was awarded a 2015 Impact Grant from NBCUniversal to produce webisodes of the GenHERation Summer Leadership Series 2015 as one of the most innovative, socially-impactful projects that came out of this year’s journey. She was featured on the cover of Philly Biz Magazine as the youngest woman on the “Women to Watch” list.

Katlyn is a serial entrepreneur who has started two nonprofit organizations, the dance exercise program Tap for Tots, and a technology commercialization venture. She also serves on the Advisory Board for the Center of the Advancement of Girls at the Agnes Irwin School. Katlyn is a frequent television and radio contributor and has appeared on CNBC, NBC New York, NBC Washington, D.C., SiriusXM Radio, CBS Radio Los Angeles, and Kiss 104.1.Originally from Hamburg, New York, Katlyn is now a bicoastal entrepreneur spending her time between New York City, Philadelphia, and California.

During her time at Penn, she was the Managing Practice Leader of the Wharton Small Business Development Center (SBDC). She was responsible for managing the daily operations of the High Impact Growth Consulting Program, which included overseeing the work of more than 60 undergraduate and MBA students and 80 cases per year. Within an 18 month period, she helped the SBDC team generate $30 million in revenue and new investments for their clients. She was a founding team member of the SBDC’s Accelerator Program and served as the CEO of the Women’s Vertical. In recognition of her contributions to the Wharton SBDC, Katlyn received the 2014 Wells Fargo Distinguished Leadership Award.

In addition to her work at the Wharton SDBC, Katlyn served as the Co-President of Wharton Ambassadors, a member of the Wharton Venture Initiation Program, a Neff Entrepreneurial Intern Fellow, a Wharton Peer Advising Fellow, a Turner Social Impact Society Intern Fellow, a National Student Ambassador for Women in Toys, and a member of Soundworks Tap Factory. She was honored with several awards at Penn, including the 2015 Wharton Vice Dean’s Award of Service, 2015 Wharton Outstanding Undergraduate Research Award, 2015 Penn Student Award of Merit, 2014 Wharton Venture Award, 2014 Snider Seed Award, 2014 Social Impact Research Experience (SIRE) Grant Award, 2014 Trustees’ Council of Penn Women Grant Award, 2014 Women in Toys Scholarship recipient for being a promising female student entrepreneur, 2013-2015 Wharton Innovation Fund Grant, 2013 Wharton Social Impact Initiative Research Grant, and the 2013 Herbert S. Steuer Memorial Prize as one of the most outstanding Wharton students in scholarship, personality, and leadership.

Katlyn is an avid researcher and has conducted international research on girl’s leadership development. She has interviewed more than 1,500 girls, 200 executives, and 100 educators across all 50 states, 9 countries, and 4 continents. She created the Leadership Camp for Girls 2013 to test her research hypotheses. As a recipient of the 2014 Wharton SIRE Grant, she studied how girls’ consumption of media influences leadership development in the 21st century. She completed an independent study with Wharton’s Vice Dean of Social Impact to analyze female leadership development through a literature review. In spring 2015, she worked with Wharton’s Management Department to organize an analysis of the global venture capital industry.

Katlyn speaks nationally about entrepreneurship, technology, and the advancement of women. She has been a featured speaker at the Kronos Women’s Forum, Leading for Change Conference, Forbes CMO Excursion, Heads Network Annual Meeting, Young Entrepreneur’s Academy CEO Round Table, the Sea Crest School’s Innovators’ Symposium, Nichols College Institute for Women’s Leadership, and has introduced a presidential candidate for the 2016 election. Her work has been featured in national media outlets, including Seventeen, Forbes, NBCUniversal, The Huffington Post, HuffPost Live, Yahoo Travel, Penn Current, Penn Gazette, Philadelphia Daily News, Philly.com, Technically Philly, The Daily Pennsylvanian, Innovator’s Peak, Idea Forge, Washington Times, Miami Herald, Catalyst, The WALK Magazine, CollegeFashionista, Neon Tommy, Macaroni Kid, Poets & Quants, Knowledge@Wharton High School, Wharton International Business Review, and Wharton Magazine.
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