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Knowledge@Wharton: September 7, 2018

Host Dan Loney is joined by Priscilla Ocen (Professor of Law, Loyola Law School), Maynard Webb (Author), Paul Heaton (Senior Fellow; Academic Director, Quattrone Center for the Fail Administration of Justice; University of Pennsylvania Law School), Lawrence White (Robert Kavesh Professorship in Economics, NYU Stern School of Business), James Hines Jr. (L. Hart Wright Collegiate Professor of Law, Co-Director, Law and Economics Program, Michigan Law; Richard A. Musgrave Collegiate Professor of Economics, Dept of Economics; Research Director, Office of Tax Policy Research, Ross School of Business, University of Michigan), Judith Younger (Professor of Law, University of Minnesota), and Lisa Cook Ph.D. (Associate Professor Economics and International Relations, Michigan State Univerisity) on the Friday, September 7, 2018 edition of Knowledge@Wharton.

Air Date: Friday, September 7, 2018 on SiriusXM 132

Hosted By

Lisa Cook and Lawrence White

Air Time: 10:00 am
Featuring: Lawrence White, Lisa Cook Ph.D.

Maynard Webb

Air Time: 10:30 am
Featuring: Maynard Webb

James Hines Jr. and Judith Younger

Air Time: 11:00 am
Featuring: James Hines Jr., Judith Younger

Paul Heaton and Priscilla Ocen

Air Time: 11:30 am
Featuring: Priscilla Ocen, Paul Heaton

Featured Guests

Priscilla Ocen

Professor of Law, Loyola Law School


Priscilla Ocen is a Professor of Law at Loyola Law School, where she teaches criminal law, family law and a seminar on race, gender and the law. Her work examines the relationship between race, gender and systems of punishment. Her work also explores the ways in which race, gender and class interact to render women of color vulnerable to various forms of violence and criminalization. In particular, Ocen’s work draws attention to the ways in which criminalization and incarceration are used to police the reproductive choices of poor women of color. Her work has appeared in academic journals such as the California Law Review, the UCLA Law Review, the George Washington Law Review, the UC Davis Law Review and the Du Bois Review as well as popular media outlets such as the Los Angeles Daily JournalEbony and Al Jazeera.

Ocen is the co-author of the influential policy report, Black Girls Matter: Pushed Out, Overpoliced and Underprotected.  The report was part a larger effort co-organized by Ocen and others to highlight the various forms of discipline and punishment experienced by Black girls, which are often overlooked in mainstream advocacy efforts and policy initiatives. As part of this effort, Ocen co-hosted a community hearing on the status of Black women and girls in Los Angeles.

Ocen has applied her work to broader advocacy efforts, as she has served as a trainer for federal public defenders, assisted with the development of new programs in domestic violence centers in South Los Angeles, and strategized with community groups regarding efforts to monitor conditions of confinement in the Los Angeles County women’s jail. Most recently, Ocen was appointed to serve as a member of the newly established Los Angeles Sheriff’s Oversight Commission.

Prior to joining the faculty at Loyola Law School, Ocen was a Critical Race Studies fellow at UCLA School of Law, where she taught a course on Critical Race Theory and a seminar on Race, Gender and Incarceration. Additionally, Ocen served as a law clerk to the Honorable Eric L. Clay of the U.S Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. Following her clerkship, she was the Thurgood Marshall Fellow at the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area, where she worked on various racial justice issues including voting rights, police misconduct, and conditions of confinement in women’s prisons. Additionally, Ocen spearheaded the creation of a Black Women’s Reentry Project.

Ocen is also active in the community as she serves as a member of the board of directors for the Equal Justice Society, an organization dedicated to transforming the nation’s consciousness on race through law, social science and the arts.

BA, San Diego State University
JD, University of California Los Angeles, School of Law
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Maynard Webb



Bestselling author Maynard Webb is a 40-year veteran of the technology industry. An active leader in the technology and business community, Maynard serves as a board member, investor, philanthropist and mentor to young entrepreneurs.

As the founder of the Webb Investment Network (WIN), a seed investment firm dedicated to nurturing entrepreneurs, Maynard brings his experience developing and leading high-growth companies.

He is a co-founder and board member of Everwise, a talent development startup, and a board member of Visa and Salesforce. Previously, Maynard served as Chairman of the Board of Yahoo!, CEO of LiveOps, COO of eBay, and held executive roles at Gateway, Bay Networks, and Quantum.

Maynard has also served on several public and private boards including Yahoo!, Gartner, Niku, Extensity, Hyperion, Peribit (acquired by Juniper Networks), Baynote, and AdMob (acquired by Google) where he was also one of the first investors.

In 2004, he and his wife created the Webb Family Foundation, which provides underprivileged, motivated young individuals access to quality education and supports individuals who are struggling against the odds to make a positive impact on the world through innovation and hard work.

Maynard is the co-author of the critically acclaimed book, Rebooting Work: Transform How You Work in the Age of Entrepreneurship (Jossey-Bass, 2013).

His second book, Dear Founder: Letters of Advice for Anyone Who Leads, Manages, or Wants to Start a Business, will be released by St. Martin’s Press on September 11, 2018.
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Paul Heaton

Senior Fellow; Academic Director, Quattrone Center for the Fail Administration of Justice; University of Pennsylvania Law School


Paul Heaton is a Senior Fellow and Academic Director of the Quattrone Center for the Fair Administration of Justice. Much of his research aims to apply methodological insights from economics to inform issues in legal and criminal justice policy. An expert on legal and regulatory program and policy evaluation, Dr. Heaton’s criminal justice work spans a wide range of areas, including measurement of impacts of criminal justice interventions; applications of cost-benefit analysis to CJ programs; and evaluations of the CJ implications of public policies related to controlled substances. His work on policing, courts, and drug offending has been widely cited by policymakers and the media. He has also published numerous empirical studies of tort law and insurance regulation. Dr. Heaton’s work is strongly cross-disciplinary, and he has co-authored papers with legal scholars, psychologists, statisticians, physicians, criminologists, and sociologists. His research has been published in leading scholarly journals such as the Yale Law Journal, New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of Law and Economics, American Journal of Public Health. Prior to joining Penn Law, Heaton served as the Director of the RAND Institute for Civil Justice and Professor at the Pardee RAND Graduate School. He received his PhD in economics from the University of Chicago.
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Lawrence White

Robert Kavesh Professorship in Economics, NYU Stern School of Business


Lawrence White has been with New York University Leonard N. Stern School of Business for more than 35 years. His primary research areas of interest include financial regulation, antitrust, network industries, international banking and applied microeconomics.

Professor White has published numerous articles in the Journal of Business, Journal of Economic Perspectives, Journal of Economic Literature, Journal of Political Economy, American Economic Review, Review of Economics and Statistics, Quarterly Journal of Economics, and other leading journals in economics, finance, and law. He is the author of The S&L Debacle: Public Policy Lessons for Bank and Thrift Regulation, among other books, and he is the co-editor (with John Kwoka) of the 6th of edition of The Antitrust Revolution. He contributed chapters to both of the NYU Stern books on the financial crisis – Restoring Financial Stability and Regulating Wall Street. He is the co-author (with Stern’s Viral Acharya, Matthew Richardson, and Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh) of Guaranteed to Fail: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Debacle of Mortgage Finance.
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James Hines Jr.

L. Hart Wright Collegiate Professor of Law, Co-Director, Law and Economics Program, Michigan Law; Richard A. Musgrave Collegiate Professor of Economics, Dept of Economics; Research Director, Office of Tax Policy Research, Ross School of Business, University of Michigan


James R. Hines Jr. is the L. Hart Wright Collegiate Professor of Law and codirector of the Law and Economics Program at Michigan Law. He is also the Richard A. Musgrave Collegiate Professor of Economics in U-M’s Department of Economics and serves as the research director of the Office of Tax Policy Research in U-M’s Stephen M. Ross School of Business.

Professor Hines’s research is focused on various aspects of taxation. He taught at Princeton and Harvard universities prior to joining the Michigan faculty in 1997, and has held visiting appointments at Columbia University; the London School of Economics; the University of California, Berkeley; and Harvard Law School. He is a research associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research, research director of the International Tax Policy Forum, former co-editor of the American Economic Association’s Journal of Economic Perspectives, and once, long ago, served as an economist in the U.S. Department of Commerce. He holds a BA and MA from Yale University and a PhD from Harvard, all in economics.

Twitter – @UMichLaw

Michigan Law – https://www.law.umich.edu/FacultyBio/Pages/FacultyBio.aspx?FacID=jrhines
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Judith Younger

Professor of Law, University of Minnesota


Professor Judith T. Younger is recognized for her professional work in the areas of family and property law. She came to Minnesota in 1984 as a Visiting Professor. She became Professor of Law in 1985 and the Joseph E. Wargo Anoka County Bar Association Professor of Family Law in 1991. In 2010, she was named the Stanley V. Kinyon Chaired Teacher of the Year.

Younger is a product of the New York City public schools, including the internationally renowned High School of Science. There, she met her late husband, Irving Younger. After separate college careers, and their marriage, the two became classmates again when they entered New York University Law School together. At law school, they shared one set of books because they couldn’t afford two, served together on the law review, and competed fiercely with each other.

After graduation from law school, Younger clerked for a federal judge (Hon. Edward Weinfeld of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York), was an associate in the litigation department of a Wall Street law firm (now Chadbourne & Parke), was a partner in her own law firm, and was an Assistant Attorney General of the State of New York. She began her law-teaching career on a part-time basis at her alma mater, New York University Law School. She became a full-time academic after she had two daughters, joining the founding faculty of Hofstra Law School. She has now taught at a total of six law schools (New York University, Hofstra, Syracuse, Cornell, American University, and Minnesota) and served in various administrative capacities including that of law school dean. She is especially proud of some of the accomplishments her students have made under her supervision. For example: in New York, Younger and her students drafted legislation that was enacted to equalize the relations between spouses in the state; here in Minnesota, Younger and her students created a course in The Law of Reproductive Rights. Younger has taught The Law of Reproductive Rights annually since 2008. Minnesota has thus become one of the very few law schools to offer such a course on an ongoing basis. She also teaches first-year Property, Wills and Trusts, Remedies, and Family Law.

Younger has served on the Minnesota Board of Professional Responsibility and been of counsel to a Minnesota law firm. She is a member of the bar in New York, the District of Columbia, and Minnesota. She is also a member of the United States Supreme Court bar and the bars of several other federal courts. She is a life member of the American Law Institute. She acts as adviser to the student-run Theatre of the Relatively Talentless (TORT), and is a regular performer in its productions.
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Lisa Cook Ph.D.

Associate Professor Economics and International Relations, Michigan State Univerisity


Dr. Lisa D. Cook is an Associate Professor (with tenure) in the Department of Economics and in International Relations (James Madison College) at Michigan State University. She was the first Marshall Scholar from Spelman College and received a second B.A. in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from Oxford University. She earned a Ph.D. in economics from the University of California, Berkeley. Prior to this appointment and while on faculty at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, she was Deputy Director for Africa Research at the Center for International Development, Managing Editor of the Harvard University-World Economic Forum Africa Competitiveness Report, and contributed to the Making Markets Work program at Harvard Business School. She was also a National Fellow at Stanford University.

Among her current research interests are economic growth and development, economic history, innovation, and financial institutions and markets. Dr. Cook is the author of a number of published articles, book chapters, and working papers, and her research has been supported by the National Science Foundation, the National Bureau of Economic Research, Harvard Business School, the Economic History Association, and the National Poverty Center at the University of Michigan, among others. Based on her research, she was appointed in 2013 to the Advisory Boards of the Smithsonian Institution’s Lemelson Center for the Study of Invention and Innovation and of the Washington Center for Equitable Growth.

With former colleague and co-author Jeffrey Sachs, she advised the governments of Nigeria and Rwanda, and, as a Council on Foreign Relations International Affairs Fellow, she was Senior Adviser on Finance and Development at the Treasury Department from 2000 to 2001 and is currently a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. During the 2011-2012 academic year, she was on leave at the President’s Council of Economic Advisers and worked on the euro zone, financial instruments, entrepreneurship, and innovation. In February 2015, she began serving as the president of the National Economic Association. She is a guest columnist for the Detroit Free Press and a regular contributor on MSNBC. She speaks English, French, Russian, Spanish, and Wolof.

Twitter – @drlisadcook | @michiganstateu
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