Wharton Business Radio

The Business Behind Politics Special

Host William Burke-White is joined by Michael Daniel (President, Cyber Threat Alliance (CTA)), James Carville (Political Consultant and Strategist), Charlie Dent (Former U.S. Congressman representing the 15th district in Pennsylvania ), Michelle Ye Hee Lee (National Political Enterprise and Accountability Reporter, The Washington Post), Ken Vogel (Reporter, The New York Times), Karl Rove (Former Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush), Dan Primack (Business Editor, Axios), and Jo Ling Kent (Business & Technology Correspondent, NBC News) on the Friday, November 2, 2018 edition of Specials.

Air Date: Friday, November 2, 2018 on SiriusXM 132

The Business and Finance of Running a Campaign with Karl Rove

Air Time: 2:00 pm
Featuring: Karl Rove

Money's Impact and Influence on Politics with Ken Vogel and Michelle Ye Hee Lee

Air Time: 2:20 pm
Featuring: Michelle Ye Hee Lee, Ken Vogel

Impact of Trade Policy on Politics with Charlie Dent

Air Time: 2:40 pm
Featuring: Charlie Dent

Decision-Making and Campaign Strategy with James Carville

Air Time: 3:00 pm
Featuring: James Carville

Social Media Fraud, Cyber Threats, and Politics with Michael Daniel and Jo Ling Kent

Air Time: 3:20 pm
Featuring: Michael Daniel, Jo Ling Kent

Predictions on Election Outcomes and the Potential Effect on Businesses with Dan Primack

Air Time: 3:40 pm
Featuring: Dan Primack

Featured Guests

Karl Rove

Former Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush


Karl Rove served as Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush from 2000–2007 and Deputy Chief of Staff from 2004–2007. At the White House he oversaw the Offices of Strategic Initiatives, Political Affairs, Public Liaison, and Intergovernmental Affairs and was Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, coordinating the White House policy-making process.

Karl has been described by respected author and columnist Michael Barone in U.S. News & World Report as “…unique…no Presidential appointee has ever had such a strong influence on politics and policy, and none is likely to do so again anytime soon.” Washington Post columnist David Broder has called Karl a master political strategist whose “game has always been long term…and he plays it with an intensity and attention to detail that few can match.” Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard, has called Karl “the greatest political mind of his generation and probably of any generation. He knows history, understands the moods of the public, and is a visionary on matters of public policy.”

Before Karl became known as “The Architect” of President Bush’s 2000 and 2004 campaigns, he was president of Karl Rove + Company, an Austin-based public affairs firm that worked for Republican candidates, non-partisan causes, and non-profit groups. His clients included over 75 Republican U.S. Senate, Congressional, and gubernatorial candidates in 24 states, as well as the Moderate Party of Sweden.

As a Fox News contributor, Karl provides a “genuine feel of inside knowledge,” says David Zurawik, Baltimore Sun television critic. Megan Garber, of the Columbia Journalism Review, says Karl has “focused his punditry on what he knows best: strategy.” Even the New York Timesacclaims that “Rove’s substantive contributions may now inspire a little work ethic among the celebrity talking heads who may be forced to bring to the news a little more data and a little less opinion, a recalibration that would be welcome to its devoted viewers.”

Karl writes a weekly op-ed for the Wall Street Journal and is the author of the New York Times Bestseller, “Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight.” He has written for various publications, including The Daily Beast, Financial Times, Forbes, FoxNews.com, HumanEvents.com, Newsweek, The Times, Washington Post, and The Weekly Standard.

A Colorado native, he attended the University of Utah, the University of Maryland-College Park, George Mason University, and the University of Texas at Austin.

Karl has taught graduate students at UT Austin’s Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs and undergraduates in a joint appointment from the Journalism and Government departments at the university. He was also a faculty member at the Salzburg Seminar.

He was previously a member of the Board of International Broadcasting, which oversaw the operations of Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, and served on the White House Fellows regional selection panel. He was also a member of the Boards of Regents at Texas Women’s University and East Texas State University.

Karl now serves on the University of Texas Chancellor’s Council Executive Committee and on the Board of Trustees for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Foundation and the Texas State History Museum Foundation. He is a member of the McDonald Observatory Board of Visitors and the Texas Philosophical Society. He was inducted into the Scandinavian-American Hall of Fame in 2009 and the American Association of Political Consultants Hall of Fame in 2012.
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Michelle Ye Hee Lee

National Political Enterprise and Accountability Reporter, The Washington Post


Education: Emory University, BA in international studies and English

Michelle Ye Hee Lee is a reporter on The Washington Post’s national political enterprise and accountability team, covering money and influence in politics. Previously, she was a reporter for The Post’s Fact Checker and a government accountability reporter at the Arizona Republic in Phoenix. She is senior vice president of the Asian American Journalists Association.

Professional Affiliations: Asian American Journalists Association, Investigative Reporters and Editors
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Ken Vogel

Reporter, The New York Times


Based in The Time’s Washington bureau, Ken Vogel covers the confluence of money, politics and influence.

He is the author of “Big Money: 2.5 Billion Dollars, One Suspicious Vehicle, and a Pimp — on the Trail of the Ultra-Rich Hijacking American Politics” (PublicAffairs, June 2014), which chronicles the characters and motivations behind the explosion of unlimited money in American politics after the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision.

He has covered politics and government at all levels, from small-town cop shops and school boards to statehouses, Congress and the presidential campaign trail. Mr. Vogel previously reported for Politico, The News Tribune in Tacoma, Wash., The Times Leader in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., The Center for Public Integrity in Washington, D.C. and The Journal Inquirer in Manchester, Conn.

He spent most of 2006 learning about the U.S. Congress from the inside through an American Political Science Association fellowship that allowed him to work on the staffs of two House committees.

Mr. Vogel is from Cheltenham Township, Pa., graduated from the University of Wisconsin–Madison and lives in Washington.
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Charlie Dent

Former U.S. Congressman representing the 15th district in Pennsylvania


For seven terms, Dent represented the 15th District of Pennsylvania in the U.S. Congress. During that time, he served on the House Committee on Appropriations, where he chaired the Subcommittee on Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies, and sat on the State, Foreign Operations, and Related Agencies Subcommittee. Previously, he served six hears on the Homeland Security Committee. Dent is currently a senior policy advisor at DLA Piper and a contributor on CNN.
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James Carville

Political Consultant and Strategist


Chester James Carville Jr. (born October 25, 1944) is an American political commentator and media personality who is a prominent figure in the Democratic Party. Carville gained national attention for his work as the lead strategist of the successful presidential campaign of then-Arkansas governor Bill Clinton.

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Michael Daniel

President, Cyber Threat Alliance (CTA)


Michael Daniel currently serves as the President of the Cyber Threat Alliance (CTA). CTA works to improve the cybersecurity of our global digital ecosystem by enabling real-time, high-quality cyber
threat information sharing among companies and organizations in the cybersecurity field. Its
members currently include nine of the largest cybersecurity firms in the world. Michael has been
with CTA since February 2017.

Prior to CTA, Michael served as Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator on the National Security Council Staff. He held this position from June 2012 to January 2017. In this role, Michael led the development of national cybersecurity strategy and policy, and he oversaw implementation of those policies. Michael also ensured that the federal government effectively partnered with the private sector, non-governmental organizations, other branches and levels of government, and other nations.

Prior to coming to the National Security Council Staff, Michael served for 17 years with the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). From September 2001 to June 2012, he served as the Chief of the Intelligence Branch, National Security Division, in a career Senior Executive Service position. This branch oversees the Intelligence Community (IC) and other classified Department of Defense

Originally from Atlanta, Michael received a Bachelor’s in Public Policy from the Woodrow Wilson
School at Princeton University. Subsequently, he obtained a Master’s in Public Policy from the
Kennedy School of Government at Harvard with a focus on International Affairs and Security.
Michael also obtained a Master of Science in National Resource Strategy from the National Defense
University’s Industrial College of the Armed Forces in 2001.
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Jo Ling Kent

Business & Technology Correspondent, NBC News


Jo Ling Kent is a correspondent at NBC News covering business, technology and the economy. In just the past months, Kent spoke with a former YouTube employee to reveal the secrets of the platform’s algorithm in an exclusive interview, chased Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg down the hallways of Congress, interviewed Facebook and Google whistle-blowers – one of whom called Facebook “a living, breathing crime scene for what happened in the 2016 election” – and scored an exclusive first look at Amazon’s new Echo edition for kids. She covers all aspects of tech giants’ influence on our daily lives, recently reporting from Facebook’s annual F8 conference.

Previously, Kent was a reporter at Fox Business Network and an investigative reporter at NBC Connecticut, where she won a Peabody for her team’s coverage of the Newtown school shooting.

Kent reported for NBC News on the campaign trail in 2012, covering the presidential election as an embed reporter.

For five years, Kent worked in China: first as a Fulbright Scholar focusing on women’s rights, then as a Beijing-based journalist for ABC News and CNN.

Kent has earned two master’s degrees in international affairs from the London School of Economics and Peking University, along with a BA from Rice University. She’s from Minnesota, fluent in Mandarin and a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
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Dan Primack

Business Editor, Axios


Dan Primack joined Axios as Business Editor in April 2016. He runs the daily Pro Rata newsletter.

Previously, Primack was with Fortune.com as Senior Editor in September 2010 to cover deals and dealmakers, from Wall Street to Sand Hill Road. Primack’s morning newsletter, The Term Sheet, covers venture capital, Wall Street, M&A and other deal-related topics.

Previously, Primack was an editor-at-large with Thomson Reuters, where he launched both peHUB.com and the peHUB Wire email service, a daily email blast with close to 60,000 subscribers.

In a past journalistic life, Primack ran a community paper in Roxbury, Massachusetts. He currently lives just outside of Boston.
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